From: Paul Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 06:37:16 GMT [...] My theory is that the device produces a short flyback high voltage pulse that drives the crud that accumulates around the electrode of a carbon battery back into the stuff they are originally filled with which has the purpose of neutralizing this accumulating crud. Shows you how much I remember all the details of a carbon battery -- Huh!. Anyway, if that happens the battery works again (crud free) for awhile. The accumulation of course is just below some critical threshold value so it isn't long (3minutes in this case) before the stuff again does it's thing. This probably the main reason that carbon cells do not give the energy that alkalines do. [...] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jay Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 02:22:10 GMT [...] the NBS found that Newman's device was a "dead" battery being switched on and off, so that "peak power" was being detected, while average power was close to zero. You can achieve the same effect from switching a dead transistor radio on and off--even with a dead battery, you can get a few seconds of sound. Physically, I believe the electrons bunch near the terminals, but I'm not a physicist. Anyhow, such a device does not violate the First or Second Laws. The claim that more energy came out than went in came from comparing apples to oranges-- peak power versus average power. Can't do that.[...] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 23:42:36 +0100 [...] I hesitate to offer serious comments because all I know about this device is what I've read over the last 8 hours on the 'net. Nonetheless, I suspect that if this unit were to produce more power than it took in, it would be pretty simple to demonstrate that point, and it would be in the best interests of the inventor to do so. Respecting his need for privacy, a simple read of the inputs and outputs of the 'black box' would be a nice way to start. The article that was posted suggested that this was done, and that the device was found to be running at 70-something percent, not 100+ percent. While they hedged and said that internal friction might have been chewing up some of the power, this strongly suggests that the device could not have 'charged' the batteries during the earlier test. I have to conclude, based on this limited information, that the battery test was nonsense (probably related to the way the battery was initially discharged, battery memory effect, thermal effects, and what-have-you) and that the measurement test showed it do be a fraud. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Date: Fri., 18. Feb. 94 [...] Concerning the batteries: I found an article in an electronics magazine which described a battery charger which is based on _pulsed_ DC. This device is far more efficient than the normal DC chargers -- you can charge accumulators which are exhausted to a point where you can't recharge them with an ordinary, unpulsed DC device. This could be the connection between the batteries and the Newman device, although not everything in this story is clear to me yet. [...]